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PostSubject: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:15 pm

A little about me and my playstyle:

1. Long time Disc Priest. Recent convert Druid Healing.

2. Have been playing since the end of BC but have done very little raiding due to an extremely unforgiving work schedule. I am just now to a point in my RL that I can actually start trying current content(as evidenced by my hideous (non)progression).

3. I never PvP. And we are only doing 5 man heroics and 10 man normals.

4. Our other healer is a very geared and very skilled Disc Priest. Our MT is a very geared and very skilled Prot Pally. Our second tank is a new Blood DK and our DPS is Arcance Mage x 2, MM Hunter, an Ele Shammy, a Enhance Shammy and I can't remember the other DPS.

5. I'm constantly flip flopping on my spec and reforges and wish that wasn't the case.

Could someone look at my Armory, 'inspect' me and give me some advice on my current gearing/reforging/enchanting and gemming?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kargath/Operationivy/simple

Thanks in advance!

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:36 pm

Are you currently reforged for moonkin? Or is there other gear you are wearing for resto?

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:47 pm

Wow. The fact that you asked that question surely doesn't bode well for me. I logged out in Boomkin spec but that's all the gear I currently have. And I thought I was reforged for Resto.

Sock it to me. I need to be better!

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:14 pm

Well, lets start off with the basics. When you reforge or go for stats, you want to follow this formula

Haste>Mastery>Crit>Spirit

Crit becomes slightly better than mastery with higher levels, but right now. Its more of a preference. If you are more of a tank healer, then crit is ok. If you are sticking with raid healing, Mastery will be best.

Any haste reforging you did to get more spirit is not the best.
Helm: Crit - Mastery
Neck: Not Reforged
Shoulders: Crit - Haste
Back: Not Reforged
Chest: Crit - Haste
Bracers: Crit - Haste
Gloves: Not Reforged
Belt: Spirit - Mastery
Legs: Spirit - Haste
Boots: Spirit - Mastery
Ring 1: Spirit - Haste
Ring 2: Hit - Mastery
Weapon: Spirit - Haste
Offhand: Not Reforged
Relic: Crit - Mastery

As soon as you are able to, get yourself a new ring. you want to drop the hit one. Also, you can switch your artfuls to reckless and then change the enchant on your gloves to hit the WG 2005 cap. As you get more gear, you will be able to switch your gems and enchants around. The main thing is getting ahold of gear for yourself at this point :3


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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:19 pm

I'm definitely not having any mana issues in the little content I've done so far. I guess my old Disc habits were sneaking back in. So you're saying don't reforge into any Spirit at all?

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switch your artfuls to reckless and then change the enchant on your gloves to hit the WG 2005 cap

And are you recommending doing this now? Or after I grab a new non-DPS ring?

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:22 pm

If you aren't having any mana issues, you can reforge out of spirit. As for hitting the 2005 cap, you can do it and find an increase in your hps. The extra WG tick helps.

If you feel you are going to end up with new pieces of gear within the next couple days (I say tuesday is the end time) then you can hold off on reforging. Also you should drop your entangling roots glyph and get healing touch. Take a point out of Gift of the Wild and slap it in to Nature's Swiftness.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:32 pm

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Gift of the Wild
Did you mean Heart of the Wild?
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If you feel you are going to end up with new pieces of gear within the next couple days
We raid tomorrow night; but reforging is so cheap; I'm going to reforge tonight anyway to see what happens.
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drop your entangling roots glyph
I honestly don't even know why I have that glyph.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:41 pm

Damn, I should probably look before I type.

The talent points I'm taking about is blessing of the grove. Its medicore and dropping points from it won't hurt you. Especially if you are going to set it to work with a talent and a glyph.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:44 pm

Allright. Cool. I actually have a few questions about my spec, too. Will be posting a thread in that forum in just a minute.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:08 pm

OK. I took all of your advice. I reforges, changed my artless to reckless, and changed my Bracer enchant from Spirit to Haste. That took me to 2004 Haste. affraid I also respeced to the 'progression' spec from the Spec/Talent forum. And I dropped my crappy glyph for the Healing Touch Glyph. I'm kinda bummed about being 1 Haste from my goal. But I'm having a hard time justifying any changed to my other gems chants.

Any more advice? We raid in an hour. lol

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:46 pm

At a quick glance, if you reforged Spirit instead of Crit on your bracers into Haste, you will be pushed over the 2005 break point.
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:46 pm

You have amazingly low spirit now. Probably would be best to stay away from the spirit - mastery reforging. But hopefully you can snag some gear tonight. If you find no mana problems tonight with your raid. Then no need to reforge.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:59 pm

I have warned them about my spirit changes and they are all ok with me giving it a shot. We're a bunch of RL friends so it's all good. If it doesn't work I'll put the spirit back in one piece at a time until I find a comfortable place.

Would it be worth it to lose a 40 Int gem for another Reckless?

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:23 am

OK. Just before raid time last night I got to 2004 Haste. That's as high as I could get it. Unfortunately we didn't raid because we were a dps and a healer down for the night. But today we did a Guild run of WoE. I got 3 new pieces of gear. One of which enabled me to get rid of that DPS ring. It brought my iLvl up but now I'm no where near 2005 Haste; even reforging. So here is what I've come up with. I don't think I like it but I'm not sure what I'm missing. (I know the shoulders need to go and I need to finish off my Therazane rep)

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kargath/Operationivy/simple

edited to add: I was purposely blowing mana to see how reforging out of all the Spirit was. No problems. I think I might have gotten down to about 20% once.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:31 am

You have a good bit of mastery. What you can do is stay where you are. You're close to 916, which is good as well. Not the best, but its the first point.

This is about all you can do until you get more gear really. Don't want to drop low on spirit again and don't want you to hurt yourself trying to force out the 2005.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:33 am

I would have to lose a lot of Int to force myself into 2005 right now.

I really wish I could get rid of some of that Spirit again.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:41 am

@Operationivy

I ran your gear through reforgemaster.com : http://www.reforgemaster.com/?character=Operationivy&server=Kargath+-+US&submit=Load+Character

The highest Haste Rating you can reach with your current gear is 1791, which is 214 short of the 2005 breakpoint, which is within the range where it is a nett gain to lose 214 Intellect to gain 214 Haste Rating. Your problem, however, may be finding enough gems to switch to Haste.

These are the settings I recommend for reforgemaster:
TOTALS: Haste=2005
WEIGHTS: Crit=3 Haste=99999 Mas=1 Spirit=1

You can change Mas or Spirit to 2 if you want to favor the other
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:11 pm

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WEIGHTS: Crit=3 Haste=99999 Mas=1 Spirit=1
I am a total noob when it comes to Stat Weights and math and junk. Can you explain to me how you arrived at the numbers I quoted above? I'd surely appreciate it!

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:20 pm

I'm curious about the stat weights as well. Out of curiousity to try out that Reforge lite. So, I put in the stat weights you used and I ended up with 12% mastery, 24% crit and 2010 haste. I'm actually planning to try it out just to see how it ends up tonight in raid.

(Thats right! I'm bored and willing to try anything right now! WOOSH)

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:19 pm

reforgemaster.com seems to use inverse stat weights (lower = preferable stat, higher = unfavoured stat), so those stat weights approximate the priority: haste to 2005 > master = spirit > crit > haste beyond 2005

Don't use those numbers in any other reforger!

I'm only using reforgemaster.com because it doesn't depend on that piece of shit called Silverlight, unlike wowreforge.com
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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:28 pm

What stat weights would you recommend for something like reforge lite?

I loaded the Resto druid section and changed the stats as follows

Haste: 999
Mastery: 975
Crit: 970
Spirit: 960

Never used Reforge lite before so I'm not very sure about the exact number weights I should be using. when I kept it to single digit, it more or less went crazy.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:00 pm

For reforgelite I'd recommend

Spirit: 150
Crit: 120
Mastery: 150
Haste: 1000
Haste > 2005: 20

Adjust Spirit/Mastery depending on your preference

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:04 pm

I guess I did good with what I had before. Keeping everything the same. But atleast I know now the stat weights for this addon.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:28 am

So, tonight we 8 manned the first boos in BH, 9 manned the second boss and got real close to downing the third boss. But my heals just didn't quite cut it. I did get a new set of legs and a ring tonight. A huge upgrade for me. I gemmed and enchanted the legs and realized I could only get to 1945 Haste. Getting there. So I then reforged as close to 916 Haste as I could and ditching Spirit(still no mana issues at all) after that. This is what I got. Crit seems really high to me.

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PostSubject: Re: Looking for a general overview of my gear/reforges/enchants/gems   Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:54 am

At 1945 Haste Rating you are only exactly 3 gem switches short of 2005. Switch the gems.

EDIT: OMG you are using 2 mastery/agility gems. Change the two of them to haste/agility and you're only 1 gem switch behind.
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